Further email exchanges confirmed that “…XMRV testing is for both the culture and the serology tests…” and that “…ALL of the tests we run are validated and inspected by the State of Nevada,”This is interesting too:
I asked to see the “validation data”, requested details about “the State of Nevada” and reiterated my question about why a “clinically validated” test (or tests) was withdrawn.
VIPdx replied that “The State does not “hold” this information. It is a proprietary record of the laboratory. They inspect but do not keep our records. Our validation records and test protocols are proprietary intellectual property of the laboratory.”
During the ensuing correspondence, and contrary to VIPdx’s statement to me, it emerged that “Vincent Lombardi is not the laboratory director, nor has he served in that regulatory capacity” and “they took this off their website today, it is incorrect.”While I am pleased to see them digging up dirt on the WPI, it saddens me to at the same time that they ignore the contributions of our fine researcher and heroine at large Dr. Judy Mikovits. Just to reiterate:
[The regulatory Laboratory Director (i.e. the person who represents the lab for regulatory purposes) was/is Sanford Barsky who, in February 2012, CFS Chronicles found to be accused of scientific fraud.
January 22, 2009, Santa Barbara XMRV Seminar by Whittemore Peterson Research Director Dr. Judy MikovitsAnd this email from Dr. Judy Mikovits:
So you can be infected with retroviruses and be carriers and not be sick. And that’s one reason to be tested. If there is a genetic susceptibility, which we’re looking to, maybe a reason, an immune defect that was unknown as to why some people get sick and others don’t. You certainly want to know where the virus is, so if you’re a carrier you can protect your family.
Do you know how many have tested with VIP-Dx, and how many are positive?
I don’t work with the company. They only take samples two days a week because it takes three days to do that, so they’ve done hundreds of samples in the last couple of months, and at least half of them are positive. Or 40 percent. And again, their doctors are looking at, the doctors who are well versed with CFS, so they’re immediately sending off. Dr. Cheney, Dr. Klimas, a doctor in Canada, Ellie Stein, maybe even Susan Levine in New York. I’m not sure, because it’s illegal for me to know those data because there’s confidentiality between the patient and the physician. But quite a number and, yes, it’s there.
Annette Whittemore: Earlier you said that 40% were positive [by VIP Dx]. So describe the fact that if you’re positive, you’re positive. But if you’re negative, you’re not necessarily so?
Dr. Mikovits: Yes, that’s correct. I answered that question based on the samples that came through there. Everyone who is positive is definitely positive for having the virus. But we don’t know what the people are, what the doctor is sending in, so the people might not have that disease. So it could be a clearly, distinguishing delineating marker – biomarker – or diagnostic at that point for various diseases. So a doctor might see a spectrum and say “I don’t know, maybe I’d better check.” Because the earlier you catch it, just like cancer. Early detection. Make sure the reservoir is (inaudible), make sure you don’t have that virus multiplying, and you can live a normal life. Don’t let it get (inaudible). You know the commercial out right now is “HIV doesn’t have to equal AIDS”; well XMRV doesn’t have to equal disease. If we keep it down, we keep the immune system strong.
Question: So what you’re saying is you may test negative but not be negative?
Dr. Mikovits: That’s correct. If you do it by the PCR. If you do it by VIP-Dx, at least right now, it’s running along the lines of (inaudible). We’ve got the antibody, and we’ve got three of the four tests. We’ll license it to anyone. We’re a non-profit institute, so everybody pays the same royalty, so any diagnostic company could do the gold standard. But right now, if you test negative, you’re not necessarily negative, even at VIP-Dx. Because we want to go do that serology test. Maybe we can’t find evidence of the virus. But you’ve been exposed, which would be a good thing because your levels are theoretically low, and you’ve just now made the antibodies, so you can prevent disease, as we did with Magic Johnson. But we don’t know anything about the immune response to the virus.
Email from Dr. Judy Mikovits on XMRV and ME
Posted by Birgitte on 14/03/2010
(copy here: http://esme-eu.com/news/email-fra-dr-judy-mikovits-ang-xmrv-og-me-article304-7.html )
Dr. Judy Mikovits writes:
Regarding the ramifications of being XMRV negative. First of all the current diagnostic testing will define with essentially 100% accuracy XMRV infected patients. The negatives are more difficult as there are additional tests that can only be done in the research lab at this time and not in a clinical setting such as VIPDx. The most important test is to check your blood for an antibody to the virus. If you are positive in the serology test and have an antibody to the virus, you have evidence of infection but at the time your blood was drawn the amount of virus in your blood was below the limit that could be detected by the most sensitive test currently available clinically, which is the the one done at VIPDx. that means while you tested XMRV negative..it could be a false negative. …
But by definition if you have ME you must have XMRV. [????]
We will test everyone that tested negative to see if we can find antibodies in your blood and look for that variant that we describe..that is evidence of XMRV infection. …