No XMRV/pMLV in CFS/MEAnd:
[Mikovits and Ruscetti, among others] were wrong about a potential link between chronic fatigue syndrome and these viruses.I fully expect the Gerwyn/V99 sockpuppet army to ignore the findings by Ian Lipkin, and flood the comment sections to put their deluded and manipulative spin on things.
It's over.
The XMRV-fraud is over! No MLVs or other related viruses could be found in humans.
There is no "HGRV", there is no XMRV infection in humans, there is not pMLV in humans, and there is certainly no MLV in humans.
You have been had.
The reported results from Mikovits and Ruscetti were riddled with inconsistencies and impossibilities. Whatever they reported, it was no real life process in humans.
It was not real, it was artificial.
The reported results were lab-artifacts, and furthermore lab-artifacts that can – in their total sum – rationally be only explained as intentional.
Mikovits was pushing a sham.
Everything Mikovits said had only one effect: To muddy the waters.
Not a single word written or uttered by Mikovits can be trusted.
It is sad that people fell for her and her deceptive words – we now have to move on from this mess created by Mikovits and Ruscetti.
Gerwyn/V99 and his sockpuppets are hacks.
I fully expect Gerwyn/V99 and all the other deluded acolytes to continue their self-deceptive promotion of BS instead of science.
Same as Mikovits, not a single word by this army of sockpuppets can trusted.
What will Mikovits say now?
I fully expect her to do some BS and try to throw someone under bus. What ever BS and sham was happening around her, she always blamed other people – I fully expect that pattern to continue.
Was it fraud by Mikovits and Ruscetti?
The legal definition of fraud is as follows:
A false representation of a matter of fact—whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of what should have been disclosed—that deceives and is intended to deceive another so that the individual will act upon it to her or his legal injury.We now know as an matter of fact that "XMRV/(p)MLV" are not involved in ME/CFE – claiming otherwise (as Mikovits did) was an false representation of an matter of fact.
The question whether Mikovits' behavior was fraudulent (or just plain stupid) rests on the question: Did Mikovits intend to deceive us?
It is always hard to look into brains of people – and especially with someone like Mikovits who muddies the water with every word she says.
But if pressed, I would say the actions and words of Judy Mikovits were intentional.
You do have a way with words in stating the obvious, but true. Maybe someone will file a FOIA on Mikovits and Ruscetti for their lab notes!
ReplyDeleteI try to avoid strong language (been there), while at the same time not hiding my view behind false politeness. Was it fraud by Mikovits and Ruscetti? That seems to be the question that almost everybody doesn't ask out of false politeness. And I try to voice my opinion as far as I think it is an truthful view of reality.
ReplyDeleteAnd while I think it *was* fraud, I am still willing to consider other positions (albeit not very passionately).
What an excellent idea about FOIA. Add the emails between Ruscetti and Mikovits to that.
I would do it, if I had sufficient energy to see it through – looks like the bane of being ill… I'm glad if I muster enough energy to coherently voice my opinion.