Tuesday, January 17, 2012

Suspended on PhoenixRising

It is no problem to post HIV-denieing stuff on PhoenixRising, or other scientific Bullshit – but call bullshit bullshit, and you get suspended. Oh, well.

Thankfully I am not the only one appalled by this:
"Personally I find HIV denialism to be incredibly offensive, just as offensive as I find it to deny the existence or seriousness of ME, and neither should have any place in this forum or in any other forum which values human rights and sound science."

"Frankly, I'm appalled that such behaviour is tolerated on this forum, as it's unquestionably the nastiest type of trolling I've ever seen. Hundreds of thousands of lives have been needlessly lost due to the South African government's former embrace of AIDS denialism."


"I agree that HIV/AIDS denialism is off topic and inappropriate for an ME/CFS forum, but dealing with that is up to the moderators."


"I have personally seen people die horrible painful deaths from being infected with HIV that has progressed to AIDs -- riddled with cancer, unable to breath from pneumonia, unable to eat, in massive pain -- all of these people had one thing in common -- HIV infection. Funding into HIV does not need to be halted. People with HIV and AIDS deserve every penny spent on their illness. Yes, a ton more money needs to be spent on ME research but they are different illnesses. I have spent precious time and energy raising money for children in Africa who have no parents because they died of AIDS because they had no access to ARV's. People with access to ARV's live longer, those with no access die. That's a fact.

Just because you say, cfsboston, that HIV does not cause AIDS doesn't mean it is true. You would probably get a better response if you left AIDS/HIV out of the equation and dealt with the lack of funding surrounding ME. I, personally, think more funding for ME is necessary, but why at the expense of other illnesses.

Frankly, I find your comments to be very disturbing on many levels."


"I respectfully disagree. HIV is accepted by the mainstream scientific community and medical orthodoxy as the cause of AIDS. I believe they are correct; the evidence is overwhelming. You are welcome to your opinion about that subject, but you are NOT welcome to confound ME or CFS with AIDS here. AIDS denialism is off topic and has nothing to do with ME/CFS advocacy.

There is no such thing as CFS/AIDS, it is a made-up word game on your part and it is hurtful to those here who are gay or have lost gay friends or others to AIDS. Having visited the AIDS blanket with a gay friend made me clear on the magnitude of loss and human suffering as a result of HIV infections worldwide. And the loss of dear gay friends to HIV infection made that personal for me. It would be nice if you decided to post your repeated HIV denialism content to parts of the forum that were intentionally created for off-topic content."


"Cfsboston, you arrived last month and have rapidly started 6 threads, all related to this idea that CFS=AIDS. Nobody has replied agreeing with this premise. The replies are mostly attempts to educate you about the science of HIV and AIDS, which you reject out of hand.

This is feeling disrespectful and inappropriate to me. This is an ME/CFS forum. If you want to argue about HIV-AIDS, I think you're in the wrong place."


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